I was used it a couple of times. MST: 0313044100 cn tuyn gp 1 nhn vin K To, C nh i! On the front fender to see how it sands and it sands and buffs great.
For good work, I buy top of the line base and clear. This link I posted in the last sentence of my previous post IS FOR CROSSFIRE 5.0 SINLGLE STAGE. 0000012357 00000 n
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As far as I can tell Crossfire is just thinned down Tec/Base with a lower price! Espaol, Stay up to date on the latest news from Martin Senour, Fleet & Manufacturing Specification Guide. CrossFIRE is a low cost high quality coatings system for use in facilities specializing in high volume cosmetic repair or fleet refinish. The clear is fine. Our website has been redesigned and updated! I did a 69 Mustang for a friend who bought the crossfire base clear a few years back. The advanced technology in these products. Cng ty em ang lm th ng k, CTY TNHH SX TM DV PHT TRIN PH QU PHT
From the paint booth to the office, Martin Senour is your full service partner. As far as I can tell Crossfire is just thinned down Tec/Base with a lower price! I got to much orange peel mixing it straigh up 41. I got a gal. trailer
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Mixing it 1:1 is kind of a starting point, lacquer primer can be reduced more without any problem at all.
Prepare the following materials first hand so your work does not get interrupted once you have begun. Espaol, Stay up to date on the latest news from Martin Senour. The new stuff uses a 411 mix vs. RustProof MD Coatings. bloverby NICE paint work and thanks for the insite. Click on the link to the products you are using. Thanks. Top. Find a drawing idea that suits your needs.
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Crossfire Cross/FIRE Overall Refinish System Cross/FIRE is an economical, high-quality, mid-range coatings system for use in facilities specializing in high-volume overall repaints and fleet refinishing. ProBASE Single Stage and Basecoat Mixing Configuration PBT PBS CrossFIRE Overall Refinish System. Take note of the following steps to learn how to mix paint for spray gun. I did a 69 Mustang for a friend who bought the crossfire base clear a few years back. My personal belief is that the Crossfire is just thinned down Tec Base. Thanks for all the info Bloverby.
Martin Senour Color Matched Paint. Pricing is temporarily unavailable online for the part. Mar 19 2010 6. WIth Tec Base you get a can of thick paint that you add a basecoat stabilizer to (milky looking stuff /not reducer) that mixes 1:1.
I believe this is the appropriate tech sheet for what you are using. Martin Senour Paint Products ensure that you will get a high quality, consistent finish on every vehicle. The high end TEC/Base has better coverage also. We extensively reviewed the site experience and got feedback from regular users to create a site with optimal search and navigation capabilities. I just sprayed it last week. 0000021048 00000 n
I just choked on the price of Martin Senour's Tech Base in a 2006 Dodge 'Top Bannana' gallon of paint. 0000017117 00000 n
Cross/FIRE 5.0 VOC Urethane Enamel Single Stage Color (55) PART # 55 SERIES CROSSFIRE National Rule Compliant Urethane Enamel is a low cost alternative acrylic urethane enamel line with thousands of similar color matches to the original vehicle's color. 0000013570 00000 n
Does the paint ship out of the same wharehouse as the rest of the parts or is that a seperate outfit being its really Sherwin Williams?
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It looks really bright! of Ford Blue in MS the other day along with a gal. of lightweight filler that got a hole punched in the bottom. Mix System Configurations 6H Requirements Troubleshooting Guide.
Cafe e hi cht . em mi lm Tho lun k ton, Cc anh ch cho e hi l l n v e thng 12 c 1 bn ngh vic nhng vn nh Tho lun k ton, CNG TY C Phn C Gii Min Nam Protect Your Fleet With Martin Senour S Versatile Pcc Coating System, Martin Senour Introduces Single Stage Color New Euroclear Additions To Pro Base System, Complete Color Primer System Martin Senour Auto, Pcc 1k Industrial Epoxy Primer Martin Senour Auto, Prism National Rule Basecoat Color 66 Martin Senour Auto, Pink Rose Color Chart Martin Senour House Paint Color Chart Chip Swatch And Palette Pink Paint Colors Pink Palette Paint Charts, Cross Fire 5 0 Voc Urethane Enamel Single Stage Color 55 Martin Senour Auto, Sharpie Oil Based Paint Markers White Fine Point, Your email address will not be published. Looks like I'll using Tec/Base for my other projects as I'm looking at silver and metalic red for those and thus far haven't necessarily been able to concur my fight with metalics so any help the Tec/Base can give me might be worth the extra cost. Lots of questions. 0000000016 00000 n
This is JMO. The orange in the picture is HOK tangelo pearl. General Discussion. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Tec/Base is better in every way except price, and with the better coverage and a 1:1 mix ratio instead of 2:1 you probably can get about the same coverage out of 2 qts of Tec/Base that you would get out of a gallon of Crossfire. Theo TT200, mt s ti khon thay i, vy vay ngn hn ngn hng tr, cc anh ch i, em c 1 vn nh anh ch gip. 0000007563 00000 n
I did lay down three coats over a very-yellow tinted urethane primer..Just to make sure. A ch Tho lun k ton. Thanks for the quick replies and great information. 0000020812 00000 n
i used martin senour primer and sherwin willams paint. Unlike standard paints and coating RustProof MD treats rust directly stopping it dead in its tracks and sealing the metal away from oxygen moisture to. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo.
Tec/Base is better in every way except price, and with the better coverage and a 1:1 mix ratio instead of 2:1 you probably can get about the same coverage out of 2 qts of Tec/Base that you would get out of a gallon of Crossfire. Click on the link to the products you are using. Cross Fire 3 5 Voc Hs Basecoat Color C3 Martin Senour Auto. 0000006611 00000 n
Their single stage has covered the few times I have used it and is fine for reshooting panels for OEM repairs or junk like that on stuff like old vans. 0000001824 00000 n
Love the color choice and flame shapes. Mixing a pint of Ford color. 0000034017 00000 n
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I'm restoring an Oliver 88 and was wondering if this stuff would work. Not as much with the clear but base colors are apples and footballs. Martin Senour Crossfire PrimerPaint.
It seems really user friendly and I can get good results even though I havent had much experience. CrossFIRE National Rule Gallon Basecoat. The metallic control would be the main factor for me, if it is a metallic color I would go with Tec/Base. Sep 5, 2008 What you have is lacquer primer and lacquer thinner. Martin Senour offers a product solution for all markets. Prism M Single Stage Color 60 Martin Senour Auto Martin Senour Paints 109 6 Cascade Green Precisely Matched For Paint And Spray Paint Martin Senour Paints 44 4 Vanilla Cream Precisely Matched For Paint And Spray Paint General Discussion.
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Click on the link to the products you are using. As the saying goes better living through chemistry Martin Senour Paints has created an alternative to complete rust removal and instead turned to rust conversion and coating. My guess is that the "basecoat fixer" and "balance solvent" + reducer is what makes up the basecoat stabilizer in Tec Base (probably in different ratios to give the crossfire the thinner consistency and alter the original color to make it lighter). Achieve industry-leading cycle times and reduce energy costs with the IP Process. It does negate some of the cost savings though. Axalta Increases ColorNet User Productivity with Integrated Video Tutorial System Polyvance Releases New 6204 Hot Spot Cordless Plastic Stapler. What little painting I have done, I used Martin Senour and crossfire and absolutely love the stuff.
I'm new to painting and didn't realize the terminology. First lets talk about single stage paints. CrossFIRE National Rule Gallon. CROSS/FIRE: Paint Product Application: Enamel Sealer . I started using Martin Senour paints mainly because I have a very good relationship with the NAPA store and know that the paint guy there knows his stuff and is usually very helpful. Diagram Front Park/Sig Lamp - decreasing blinking and lighting. Come join the discussion about restoration, builds, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! All the product data sheets for Martin Senour products can be found. The Crossfire is a good product but color match isn't good from batch to batch (supposedly), coverage is slightly less. the "Super Gloss" uses 4:1 -- product number is 15350 the "High Solids" uses 8 of CC3500 to 4 of CLV reduced to 1 of hardener. CrossFIRE 28 Single Stage 35 Basecoat Quart. There is a huge difference. This seems strange to me..
I use that thumb print as a guide to see how clear is setting up, I'm not saying go out and press on 1hr old clear, simply press on it after it is "supposed" to be dry and use it as a guage. Cho c nh , c ai np thuyt minh bo co ti chnh nm qua mng cha , sa, Cho c nh I have used the white base as a ground coat to help with coverage as well. 0000001424 00000 n
Thanks and have a great day! I have asked him this question also but am soliciting other opinions. Crossfire line. 0000006563 00000 n
The new 5010/5020 clears use 1 common hardener and the same reducers as Crossfire base but you have to pick a clear to suit what your spraying. 0000022086 00000 n
I looked in that link previously and did not specifically see the Crossfire 5.0 listed, am I missing something obvious? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Specifications. Liquid. It's "good enough" for not so fussy work.
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I'm guessing it's 4:2:1 but don't want to guess and be wrong. Single stage paints are a stand alone type of paint. 0000008712 00000 n
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I used martin senour primer and sherwin willams paint. BondoKing. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 0000006515 00000 n
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The new 5010/5020 clears use 1 common hardener and the same reducers as Crossfire base but you have to pick a clear to suit what your spraying. Crossfire 50 single stage should mix. Only difference I ever saw between CC5000 and the older high end clears = 8639, 8615, 8637,8888.. is the amount of time it takes to stop printing. Make yourself at homeread, ask and answer! Anyone ever use it? xref
Brand: CROSS/FIRE: Container Size: 1 qt (US) Paint Product Application: Spray . Does the HOK work OK under the crossfire clear? It is quite a bit cheaper--$40.49 per quart for Martin Senour Acrylic Enamel versus $16.49 for the CF. Post a reply. Click here to purchase Tamco Primers and Clearcoats, Martin Senour Users - Crossfire vs Tec/Base. The metallic control would be the main factor for me, if it is a metallic color I would go with Tec/Base. The maroon didn't cover worth a sheet and was a real pita. I did reduce the clear a little though. . 0000007113 00000 n
The Crossfire is a good product but color match isn't good from batch to batch (supposedly), coverage is slightly less. You may need to reduce it more to get it out of the gun. If you look in my photo album the orange Nova is done in Crossfire base that I had custom mixed using Staight CF103 mixing color with the basecoat fixer and balnce solvent added in the proper ratios by my jobber.[/QUOTE]. I know you know your stuff Barry, why is there a preference for some mixing ratios? Make yourself at homeread, ask and answer! For good work, I buy top of the line base and clear.
Can't comment on that. I have used both the cross/fire primers (epoxy and the 15221/15222 high build) and also the single stage urethane. 571 0 obj
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4:1:1/2 I just used urethane reducer. A forum community dedicated to hot rod owners and enthusiasts. Learn More Products and Systems Martin Senour offers a product solution for all markets Learn More Lately I've been using alot of the new budget Crossfire clears 15410 and 15420, they spray nice, are low odor, have great doi and setup faster and harder than anything from Martin Senour that I've used. 0000002761 00000 n
Do they not have as many bright colors or what? In this video Kevin Tetz explains Mix Ratios and how to properly mix car paint when spraying your next project vehicle. JavaScript is disabled. HTH. 0000041319 00000 n
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(Same poo, different name..) I had problems with lifting.. but might be my own fault for not spraying enough sealer. You must log in or register to reply here. Just to follow up, the Crossfire covered just fine.
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Martin senour paint mixing instructions. Jobber price - $378!!!!! Well mixing automotive paint is really a lot simpler than you think. I really like that one! CrossFIRE National Rule Quart Basecoat. Your email address will not be published.
Crossfire is good for primers and clear coats, but I would tend to use the TEC/base on colors that might have trouble covering/matching such as Yellow, Red, Pink, Green, Blue.
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There is a huge difference. Crossfire 5.0 single stage should mix: 8:4:1 = Paint + Cr series reducer + Ch253 hardener. Martin Senour develops, manufactures, and distributes a complete portfolio of high quality coatings and supplies for all PB&E marketing segments, including; Collision Repair, Restoration & Custom, Fleet & Commercial, Manufacturing & Industrial, and Farm & Agricultural segments. 0000041773 00000 n
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I use that thumb print as a guide to see how clear is setting up, I'm not saying go out and press on 1hr old clear, simply press on it after it is "supposed" to be dry and use it as a guage. General Discussion. 0000002015 00000 n
No clear is necessary to produce a gloss. The primers seem fine although I heard pro's complain about the epoxy (I twas part # cph400 or something like that) being too slow drying for them. I started using Martin Senour paints mainly because I have a very good relationship with the NAPA store and know that the paint guy there knows his stuff and is usually very helpful. I'm guessing it's 4:2:1 but don't want to guess and be wrong. The CrossFIRE basecoat is a low cost alternative basecoat line with thousands of similar color matches to the original vehicle color. 10,400. Hi guys, I purchased a gallon of Martin Senour Crossfire (NAPA) 5.0 Urethane Enamel, single stage. CROSSFIRE Standard Hardener Not available. Looks like I'll using Tec/Base for my other projects as I'm looking at silver and metalic red for those and thus far haven't necessarily been able to concur my fight with metalics so any help the Tec/Base can give me might be worth the extra cost. I have a few cars I am working on from fixing up a daily driver to restoring a 68 Road Runner. Martin Senour develops, manufactures, and distributes a complete portfolio of high quality coatings and supplies for all PB&E marketing segments, including; Collision Repair, Restoration & Custom, Fleet & Commercial, Manufacturing & Industrial, and Farm & Agricultural segments. The paint guys won't be in tomorrow. HTH. All the product data sheets for Martin Senour products can be found here. Identification:::: Manufacturer :MARTIN SENOUR PAINTS 4440 Warrensville Center Road Warrensville Hts., OH 44128-2837 Relevant identified uses of the . Primers OK..paint marginal. 0000048393 00000 n
I looked in that link previously and did not specifically see the Crossfire 5.0 listed, am I missing something obvious? Martin Senour automotive paint training courses are designed to provide hands-on knowledge in a variety of areas that are of direct interest to the automotive painting professional.
Also, why HOK base and not Martin Senour? Manufacturer martin senour paints 101 prospect avenue n w. Documents and specifications for martin senour products including. 0000006755 00000 n
When you buy Tec Base you are getting allot more pigment in the can than with Crossfire. The basecoat is primarily an overall refinish line.
My local napa shop switched to it. Buy Paint Primer Surfacer Hardeners Crossfire Epoxy Primer - MS QTCH200 online from NAPA Auto Parts Stores. Paint Mixing Colors Automotive Refinishing Crossfire. Chopped and Sectioned 1948 Chevy Truck owned since I was 15 in 1974. I believe this is the appropriate tech sheet for what you are using. 0000002897 00000 n
Martin Senour automotive paint training courses are designed to provide hands-on knowledge in a variety of areas that are of direct interest to the automotive painting professional. It looks great. Click here to purchase Tamco Primers and Clearcoats, Martin Senour Crossfire 5.0 Urethane mix ratio -- not on web. JavaScript is disabled.
General Discussion. Thanks!
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Martin Senour develops, manufactures, and distributes a complete portfolio of high quality coatings and supplies for all PB&E marketing segments, including; Collision Repair, Restoration & Custom, Fleet & Commercial, Manufacturing & Industrial, and Farm & Agricultural segments. Crossfire 5.0 single stage should mix: 8:4:1 = Paint + Cr series reducer + Ch253 hardener. In short, the color match is better with Tec/Base (I am told) and coverage is slightly better.
(216) 566-2917 SAFETY DATA SHEET Product name Other means of identification Product type Emergency telephone number of the company Section 1. With crossfire you basically get 1/2 a can of thick paint that is filled the rest of the way with "basecoat fixer" and "balance solvent", to this you add regular reducer at a 2:1 ratio. Remember dont think of the compone. The Martin Senour website does not show the mixing ratio for this specific paint, does anyone know offhand? .
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The maroon didn't cover worth a sheet and was a real pita. The CC5000 would print for days whereas most of the others wouldn't print the next day except for maybe 8888, that one is a little slower than the others. Discussion in Body Restoration started by bmeyer Mar 19. I think it is just a slick way to market a cheaper product by pulling the technology from the main line.
Anyone use NAPA 'CrossFire' Paint? Martin Senour offers a solution for all applications, and for all levels of production. The Martin Senour website does not show the mixing ratio for this specific paint, does anyone know offhand?
The PRO Body Filler series is formulated with an advanced proprietary resin blend and adhesion booster to provide maximum adhesion to galvanized bodypanels aluminum and steel offering a premium solution for a variety of markets such as collision repair manufacturing walk-in and many more. I have asked him this question also, but am soliciting other opinions. I use a ton of Crossfire on stuff where color match isn't an issue. Any suggestions/recommendations? Please contact us if you do not find the Martin Senour color you need. Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Polish Painter and 86 guests. Additionally, Martin Senour has a full line of colors across all Martin Senour brands and systems to meet any refinish need.
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Thats why you may be watching this video and reading this blog post. Martin Senour develops, manufactures, and distributes a complete portfolio of high quality coatings and supplies for all PB&E marketing segments, including; Collision Repair, Restoration & Custom, Fleet & Commercial, Manufacturing & Industrial, and Farm & Agricultural segments. Awesome Job!!! Martin Senour offers a product solution for all markets, Stay up to date on the latest news from Martin Senour, Fleet & Manufacturing Specification Guide. Good luck!
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I haven't used any of the new Tec Clears.
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The Crossfire line is designed for overall refinishing only. Martin Senour automotive paint training courses are designed to provide hands-on knowledge in a variety of areas that are of direct interest to the automotive painting professional. Martin Senour develops, manufactures, and distributes a complete portfolio of high quality coatings and supplies for all PB&E marketing segments, including; Collision Repair, Restoration & Custom, Fleet & Commercial, Manufacturing & Industrial, and Farm & Agricultural segments. If you choose to use it to match a fender you are taking chances. Cross/FIRE IP Performance Urethane Single Stage . Make yourself at home.read, ask and answer!
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Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot], Majestic-12 [Bot], Polish Painter and 87 guests. Thanks for the quick replies and great information. All the product data sheets for Martin Senour products can be found here.
Where I work we can be running one machine with three packaging lines and be applying three different brand labels on the product coming out the other end.
I would use Crossfire to repair the finish on my 94 pickup but I'd use top line paint for my Camaro, of couse, or 2008 Honda DD. Thanks! Bottom line is it's not Tec Base, but it doesn't cost near as much even when you factor in the amount of extra paint you have to buy to acheive the same coverage as Tec. Crossfire Martin Senour Paint Mixer, Hardener, Reducer, Sealer, Toner (QTCH258, Hardener) $32.50 Color: QTCH258, Hardener + + This item: Crossfire Martin Senour Paint Mixer, Hardener, Reducer, Sealer, Toner (QTCH258, Hardener) $32.50 Kleanstrip Prep-All Wax & Grease Remover, Gallon (KLE-GSW362) $28.99 TCP GLOBAL Premium Paint Mixing Essentials Kit. Madison, WI. The Nova is really nice, but what color is that Camaro 427? 0000007335 00000 n
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So essentially you are getting the paint cheaper because it has way less pigment in it.
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I got to much orange peel mixing it straigh up 4:1. CROSSFIRE National Rule Compliant Urethane Enamel is a low cost alternative acrylic urethane enamel line with thousands of similar color matches to the original vehicles color.
In the Crossfire line they even mention a possible color match issue in case of repairs. Cross/FIRE offers ease of application, a large color palette, and excellent gloss. 0000019624 00000 n
What color is the orange on the side? Click here to purchase Tamco Primers and Clearcoats, Martin Senour Users - Crossfire vs Tec/Base.
Available as an intermix color system and in popular industrial and equipment factory packaged colors PCC 35 VOC Acrylic Enamel Single Stage Color is a versatile coating that is available in both 1K and 2K mixing options. The paint guys won't be in tomorrow. CN TUYN NHN VIN K TON Low cost option with thousands of OEM color options, Fleet & Manufacturing Specification Guide, CrossFIRE 5-0 VOC Urethane Enamel Single Stage Color 55. 0000015677 00000 n
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For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 2014 The Martin Senour Company Page 3 of 5 MA5333 Cleveland, OH 44115 3/01/2014 www.martinsenour-autopaint.com 800-526-6704 Recoat Recoat window without sanding: 16 - 24 hours If allowed to sit for 24 hours or longer, Cross/FIRE IP single stage must be scuffed or sanded before . MyPerfectColor matches all Martin Senour colors in spray paint touch up paint pints gallons and more. It's supposed to be a cheap Martin Senour paint. My only concern is that I can not find a very bright orange with them. 0000047783 00000 n
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I have a few cars I am working on from fixing up a daily driver to restoring a 68 Road Runner. Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Polish Painter and 86 guests. :thumbup: I assume she only gets to bring you the damaged mixing components and you are on your own as to how to make a base out of it. RustProof MD coatings have one purpose to stop rust.
RustProof MD coatings have one purpose to stop rust. Make yourself at homeread, ask and answer! I just did this 71 Super Beetle last Thursday using the Crossfire Base/Clear.
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