Whereas white parents, a lot of times, it is much harder the bar is much higher to remove them from their homes because their whiteness or possibly class privilege or whatever identities that they have that might not fit a social worker or judges or whoevers involved perception of whose kids should be in the foster system. Her mother was arrested and charged with abuse, and Mackenzie went into foster care. But her mother wasnt finished with her. Her account was not completely inaccurateshe described as a foster child one sibling of hers who was actually the biological child of her foster parents, for instance, which she attributed later to not having developed her essay at length. Am I right about that? And so when you applied for your masters in social worker or sociology? Mackenzie Fierceton (born Mackenzie Terrell on August 9, 1997; later Mackenzie Morrison, [1] : 63-64, 86 ) is an American activist and graduate student currently studying at Oxford University. One possible explanation for this depressing story is that Mackenzie Fierceton fraudulently accused her own mother of gravely abusing and attempting to kill her, spent 22 days in the hospital to . Brandt, the Chesterfield police detective who had originally investigated the case, said later that the prosecutor never explained to her what that new evidence was. Is that just an interpretation or did they say anything that suggested to you that the fact that you had gone to a private school and grown up in an upper-middle-class situation meant that you could never at any point consider yourself low-income? RG: Anything in particular jump out at you after having read back over that transcript? I think youre right. Cause then you cant think that it could be you. [7] The charges against Lovelace were dropped later for lack of evidence. I think they do have a richer experience if they have more diversity around them, but that is more the point. Right. But its interesting because most of the questions are about these applications and then the second half is when it turns to these questions of the abuse. This is derived from language in the federal Higher Education Act, which ties first-generation status to the educational attainment of the parent the student "regularly resides with and receives support from". Penn officials, of course, have said the interview was appropriate. Yes, definitely. And I was the one who uncovered my classmates death. So therefore that doesnt fit their understanding of low-income, despite the fact that your mother was no longer your legal guardian, youre a ward of the state. And I told them I only have a half-hour, because Im working, Im in class, and were going to go through all of this. RG: And so where is your story now? Mackenzie Morrison was born Mackenzie Terrell but took her mother's name after her father, Billy Terrell, who worked in soap operas, left. . And like: Why are you considered an independent student? [1]:111112, Penn's investigators asked Fierceton why she had pretended to be asking on another's behalf when she made her queries within the university. We dont have ads, so we depend on our members 35,000 and counting to help us hold the powerful to account. There were definitely, Im sure. I n November 2020, University of Pennsylvania graduate student Mackenzie Fierceton, 24, won the Rhodes Scholarship to study at Oxford University. But those definitions arent anywhere to be found. So the students had to form a human chain from the first floor down to the basement where all our classes are to relay instructions from the paramedics, the Philadelphia paramedics, to the professor who was, to my understanding, performing CPR. Both reports refrained from expressing an opinion about the truth of her abuse allegations. "Without her trauma, she didnt matter", wrote a commentator in the Tulane Hullabaloo. MF: Yeah. So they didnt ask about that in this meeting. And I decided to do it cause I felt like I had nothing to lose and I ended up making gratitude lists every day for years and it really was a very healing experience for me. RG: And it has, has she stuck by that? And do you know Linda Tirado? Professor Walter Licht, a Penn historian who runs the program, recalls her as the sort of student who would "[ask] a question that makes everyone stop and brings the conversation to a different pitch." [2] Ruderman's story, published the next day, began:[13]. "[20][m] A syndicated morning radio show named Fierceton its "donkey of the day". But in this application they had two questions which are to determine financial aid. Thats the reality of it, but we dont want to think of it that way. And I ended up reading the comments, and the comments were just horrendous. And how much did she challenge your medical condition after that beating? And it felt very similar that, well, this cant be real. And at the time I was like: Why what? The fact that they even challenged that really does expose a lot of whats going on here because I assume in their mind, theyre saying: Well, she went to this private school; she had a nice house; her mom probably drove a nice car maybe you even drove a decent car! And then The New Yorker adds in parentheses that a Penn spokesperson says: Yeah, well, thats not the definition that we use. [2], At the beginning of April,[5] after she came to school with a black eye that showed through the concealer she put over it, she was taken to see the wellness director, who asked what had happened. Like, I dont have the precise statistics in front of me, but if you asked people to guess at the number of people who will experience, say, two years of poverty in their life, people will miss it by magnitudes. White, who had apparently drafted the offer, added a sentence to it requiring Fierceton to say she was agreeing to it "voluntarily and without pressure" after she learned that Fierceton was complaining to professors that she felt Penn was pressuring her to do this. [2], Brandt interviewed Morrison, who described herself and her daughter as "two peas in a pod". [1]:111112, In her Intercept interview, Grim recounts how this was reported in The New Yorker and asks "So how is a person who is filling out this application supposed to know what definition youre supposed to use?" I think [its] called Penn First, I believe, and it seems like you socially spent a lot of time with them? RG: And how much did she challenge your medical condition after that beating? So normally the term FGLI, its just an umbrella term for both. But I agreed to come into this Zoom meeting and this was the last day of November 2020. If you havent read the story yet, I highly recommend pausing this, and giving it a read first, because I try not to go over too much of the same territory in my interview with her. Yeah. [2], Fierceton moved into the first of several foster homes, with one other foster sibling and two biological children of the foster parents. In the lawsuit filed on Dec. 21, Fierceton, a 2021 School of Social Policy . RG: And I just want to read this for people. Yeah. And eventually they filed a big wrongful death lawsuit in August 2020. [2], The next morning, when Fierceton awoke, Morrison told her she was taking her car keys and telling the school she was sick. And thats actually one of the things that, if there was any doubt whatsoever about this story, in some ways it was settled by that. I think for a lot of us, we have to sort of other poverty and abuse and put it in a box, partly, to protect ourselves. [2], In December 2021 Fierceton retained another lawyer pro bono and filed her own suit against Penn, alleging that the university's investigations into her history and how she had represented herself was a "sham", undertaken with the intent of forcing her to withdraw from the Rhodes Scholarship and damaging her credibility as a witness in the Driver suit, constituting tortious interference with a business relationship and intentional and negligent infliction of emotional distress. [2], During her high school years, Fierceton has alleged that her mother subjected her to emotional and physical abuse, the latter enough on more than one occasion to require hospitalization. So those questions really came later. She considered the advantages and disadvantages of reporting her mother, but ultimately feared she might not even be believed, as her mother would tell people she was mentally ill or lying. In the presence of her mother that night at their house, Mackenzie repeated the same story to a visiting caseworker, who appeared to accept it. She had begun to remember more about the incident, and while still not certain how it had happened recalled that before it she and her mother had been fighting about Lovelace. And so, Mackenzie, you and I were just talking offline. And so the fact that shes continued pursuing you to me kind of demonstrates the entire case. Her supporters at Penn have called for the university's acting provost, Beth Winkelstein, to be held accountable for her role in the investigation, which has been characterized as a continuation of the abuse. And theres also literature thats economic literature versus sociology, different fields have different perspectives on what that relationship between foster care and the criminal justice system is and what the causes are. Theres people who span all different kinds of experiences. Fierceton was released after four days. Fierceton is the 31st Penn student to be chosen as a Rhodes Scholar since the distinguished program's start in 1902. I think [its] called Penn First, I believe, and it seems like you socially spent a lot of time with them? He died after a medical emergency in a basement of UPenn's Caster Building in 2018. "[12] Gutmann, soon to step down from her position to serve as U.S. ambassador to Germany, had made increasing the amount of FGLI students at Penn a priority in her previous 17 years as the university's president. Right. Penn student and Rhodes Scholarship recipient Mackenzie Fierceton filed a lawsuit against the University following its investigation into allegations that questioned her status as a first-generation, low-income student and survivor of abuse.. MF: Yeah. The New Yorker reported it was written by an anonymous sender who displayed a great deal of familiarity with Mackenzies childhood that showed Mackenzie engaging in typical upper middle-class childhood activities, like horseback riding and going to the beach.. [2], Later that year, after that first foster home turned out to be "chaotic", with Fierceton's foster sibling attempting suicide, she moved to another one. And I ended up reaching out to his widow I found her on Facebook and sent her a message just to say: You know, I think I found some information. Yes. They demanded that the university remove the notation from her file. And it started with, this paragraph-and-a-half of waking up in the hospital and then, like you said, looking at my face, not recognizing myself, and kind of describing what I felt like and what the room looked like. And it felt very similar that, well, this cant be real. So thats the background of him. According to Fierceton, her mother pushed her down the stairs and then beat her extensively at the bottom. [2], In July the OSC concluded its investigation with a 31-page report sent to provost Wendell Pritchett examining Fierceton's background more extensively than the Rhodes Trust had. You know, in my personal experience, there were not very many kids who came from a background like me. And how much confidence do you have that that anonymous complainer was Carrie, your biological mother. [2][k], While the trust had come to seriously doubt Fierceton's claims about the severity of her injuries, OSC declined to make a determination on that. Margulis later told The New Yorker that he had been telling the prosecutor repeatedly that Fierceton "had no credibility and made all of this up", the same theme as Morrison's many arguments in person and over the phone to other Whitfield parents. My understanding is there were two anonymous emails. Is that what sent you into a surreal state? [4] It took nearly an hour, during which Fierceton seized intermittently and never completely regained consciousness, for her to be taken to the hospital. Later in the year she wrote online that the name change gave her "ownership of her identity" and a sense of agency she had not had before in her life. And I didnt get an answer. Like, it seemed like an airtight case from my perspective. RG: And so youre becoming rather inconvenient to the university at that point , RG: I would assume, which plays into the way that universities and elite structures think of diversity, I think. And I think psychologically one way people feel safer about it is to say: No, that happens to other people. If you want to give us additional feedback, email us at. But I just had a bad feeling and I started to try to find more information. MF: Yeah, so Penn First for the whole FGLI community. University of Pennsylvania student Mackenzie Fierceton had her Rhodes Scholarship revoked and her master's degree withheld after allegations surfaced that she was lying about her. Cause Ive just wanted to go on with my life and, you know, live it. Mackenzie Fierceton, a graduate student at the University of Pennsylvania, has won the prestigious and extremely competitive Rhodes Scholarship, which will allow her to study at Oxford in November 2020. Mother and daughter both told the same stories they had earlier; Morrison depicted her daughter as "willful and intense", claiming she had bought and read many books to try to help her understand the issues she said Fierceton had. MF: At first there was actually, there was contention. What was the response from the readers of the paper? That they would forward charges to the federal government of wire fraud. In its response to Fierceton's lawsuit, the university says its general counsel talked with Hayes, who said that bringing the charges had been the "biggest mistake" of his career. So Im not sure how much could have been missing. And I dont remember exactly what their statement was, but they disputed it. There were so many there are, I guess I should say so many moving pieces. So not that I think at all the population of kids who are in foster care is representative of what abuse or neglect and what households they occur or dont occur in. While Kerr noted that Fierceton's three weeks in the hospital was far longer than might be expected given the bruises that led to her admission, she also noted the absence of injuries to Fierceton's back despite having reportedly fallen or being thrown downstairs. Although she had not attended an orientation session for first-generation/low-income (FGLI) students she had been invited to, on campus she began attending meetings and gatherings of Penn First, an FGLI student group founded the preceding year to pressure Penn to better accommodate their needs, such as not closing dormitories and cafeterias over breaks since many FGLI students could not, for various reasons, return home during those periods. So these are all things Ive learned [laughs] I learned after the fact. And Ive brought my mentor with me. So Im not sure if it was Penn who reached out to her or vice versa, which I think is also an important question in all of this. I really appreciate it. And I think psychologically one way people feel safer about it is to say: No, that happens to other people. There was, yes, disagreement, because I said there was blood in my hair in the essay, they said there wasnt enough blood or there wasnt blood or something. And whats the difference between the U.S. and English system? A former teacher in elementary school recalled that in one of those calls, Morrison made a reference to an earlier discussion of Fierceton's mental illness; the teacher did not remember any such conversation. As in Fierceton's case, it took an hour to remove Driver from the building. And because poverty and abuse are so pervasive in society and particularly in a country that has such a minimal social safety net and has so much violence. Fierceton considered dropping out, but "if I truly can't do this, where am I supposed to return to? Why were you in the hospital that long? So, yes. [2][4][15], After learning this, Fierceton and a fellow SP2 student began doing research. [5] Lovelace was also arrested and charged with sexual abuse. Fierceton wished that she had been more willing to correct mistaken impressions that she might have made and at the time "just kind of crumbled behind the pressure. And then throughout the now a year and a half process [laughs] of different sort of invented processes that happened, eventually the university was like: OK, I guess shes low-income. And theyll openly talk about this. You didnt grow up in crumbling projects your entire life. Fierceton wrote to SP2 dean Sara Bachman complaining about the interview, saying she felt "worthlessness, hopelessness, and shame" for a week afterwards. It's from there the story unraveled. She was abused, but there is not enough blood." [2], Fierceton was accepted at the University of Pennsylvania (commonly known as Penn) on a full scholarship, arranged through QuestBridge. Who would hold party elites accountable to the values they proclaim to have? The New Yorker reported that Fierceton reported this to Penn's campus police, fearing that her mother had somehow found out where she was living. [5] She posted it before Fierceton's release from the hospital, and once free began calling Fierceton's friends and former teachers, telling them that Fierceton was having issues and had made it appear Morrison had beaten her. Fierceton had also brought her mentor, a staff member at the university's Civic House, into the meeting; at the outset Winkelstein told the woman she could not speak or she would be disconnected immediately. Uh, my lawyer. Also, there was a delay in getting the Penn Police there because they didnt know where the building was. Like you said, theres also the cultural stereotype of like Orphan Annie and Oliver Twist of what these kinds of kids are supposed to look like that starts so early on in, and deep in the culture or media that we encounter that I think really ingrains that into people. And so, just the immediate reaction was like: Theres no way. And so was it later, in a different conversation where they asked about the line in the essay about not being able to recognize yourself or is there some illusion to that in the transcript that you found? The father's message was forwarded to Penn's general counsel, Wendy White, who got in touch with Morrison. MF: Yeah. In 2020, former foster child Mackenzie Fierceton received a Rhodes Scholarship as a self-identified first generation, low income student at the University of Pennsylvania. Mhmm. She petitioned the court, and was able to successfully have her name removed, with a judge ruling that there wasnt enough evidence to substantiate the abuse allegations specifically, saying, While it is possible that Petitioner was the cause of the alleged injuries, the court cannot make that finding by a preponderance of the evidence based on the evidence presented.. MF: Yeah. [2], Fierceton supplied the trust's investigators with her medical and court records from the mid-2010s as well as letters from 26 peopleteachers at Whitfield, the three Penn faculty members who had written her Rhodes recommendation letters, vouching for her abuse claims and saying she had never misrepresented herself. It finds the definition the university's office uses, without that language, as being more determinative; Penn First, the FGLI student organization Fierceton had been involved with, also used that definition on its website for most of the time she was an undergraduate. There were so many there are, I guess I should say so many moving pieces. I cant remember if it was in the Rhodes essay or in another essay that, in hindsight, you wouldve tightened up. MF: She definitely asked some questions about it. Like one of them was describing a biological child in a house as another foster child, and something about a half-brother or something.What were those and how were those errors kind of deployed against you? RG: Right. Aviv tells the story of Mackenzie Fierceton, a former student at the University of Pennsylvania. students, defines first generation broadly, including students who have a strained or limited relationship with a parent who has graduated from college. In retrospect, I just honestly wish I had never written about those people, but it was kind of one of those things where I was like: OK, I need to make my point. Youre welcome to talk to Penn Police or their Division of Special Services or the Womens Center, or any program that Ive been involved in, or people that have been involved in supporting me who can corroborate this. I have some of my own theories, but I want to hear yours. And then throughout the now a year and a half process [laughs] of different sort of invented processes that happened, eventually the university was like: OK, I guess shes low-income. In addition to the complaint she had made against Lovelace, a similar complaint to police that her mother was abusing prescription drugs also did not yield any evidence to support it. Because Im not under any illusion that Im the typical foster kid. Joining is simple and doesnt need to cost a lot: You can become a sustaining member for as little as $3 or $5 a month. ", When Penn's Office of Student Conduct confronted Fierceton with the discrepancy between her statement on two of her applications that she ", The exact definition of FGLI relevant to forms Fierceton filled out is a key point in the Rhodes Trust and Penn investigations of her. "[2], In December, an anonymous 22-page letter was sent to the U.S. office of the Rhodes Trust, which administers the scholarship program. Like what does Penn say when you tell them: Hey, the Penn official who helped me fill this out said that these are the categories that I fit. For all the readers could have known, there could have been a videotape of it happening. She also called herself a first-generation low-income student. In the transcript, I wrote it was really just focused on: What happened the night you went into foster care? Theres a lot of chaos. And that dynamic, I would say, [laughs] probably played a big part in all of this. (Photo from Mackenzie Fierceton) Penn student Mackenzie Fierceton was selected as one of 32 American recipients of the 2021 Rhodes Scholarship, becoming Penn's 31st Rhodes scholar since the scholarship's inception in 1902.. Fierceton, a 2020 College graduate, is currently working on her . RG: Like questioning: How much blood? Since we began the Reshuffled journey, any mention of foster care grabs my attention, the same with Tracy. So one of the questions that you mentioned that they asked was about your essay , which, correct me if Im wrong, but I think it begins saying something along the lines of: Youre in the hospital, you looked in the mirror, and you couldnt recognize yourself, you couldnt recognize your features. The court granted Morrison a protection order against her former husband; Fierceton had no relationship with him from that time onward. In The New Yorker article, one teacher had written: She showed up at my classroom door with a bloodied and battered face and then fainted., RG: And then, Rachel Aviv, the reporter also quotes Sherry McClain, who was a nurse who was assigned to you, she said: She had two black eyes, and her hair was full of blood. But that was definitely a driving force for why I decided, ultimately, to withdraw because I felt like: OK, federal prison is no joke. [14], The publicity led 150 Penn students to stage a walkout from classes to demonstrate in support of Fierceton. And in the U.S., there is much more pressure to pull kids out of homes, right? [22] It went into greater detail about her past, providing more substantiation for her abuse allegations from teachers, fellow students and their parents, Carrie Brandt (the police detective who had investigated and arrested Morrison) and her allegations that Morrison had enabled Lovelace's sexual abuse. And that is, I felt very defeated too. The university, in its response to Mackenzies lawsuit, referred to Mackenzies mother as an accomplished physician and claimed that a court had found her allegations not to be credible. This definition resembles the one used in the federal Higher Education Act, which says that first-generation status depends on the education level of a parent whom a student regularly resided with and received support from.. Now anyone who earns that distinction is to be commended, but the article also noted that Mackenzie had aged out of foster care . MF: So those questions really came later. Nor is she obligated to meet their expectations of her. To me, it seems like any reader of the English language would read that in a literary sense , RG: of its self-exploration, self-doubt, trauma. And so thats the low-income box. She was diagnosed with post-concussion syndrome and released after three weeks. His master's level university, Ivy College Pennsylvania, also failed to grant him the acquired master's degree . [26] In the second, he wrote, "[y]ou could also conclude from Mackenzie Fierceton's story that there is no actual empathy within elite institutions unless you perfectly fit into the trauma hierarchy they have created, which preferences the types of overcoming-adversity stories they can place in a brochure. And then theres the part that felt like: I have no idea whats going to convince these people if I gave them medical records, I gave them forensic photos of me taken in the hospital, I gave them again like corroboration from professors of like how I described myself, from leaders in the FIGLY community. He was earlier arrested in Chattanooga, Tennessee. [1]:64, In February 2015, before presenting the evidence against Morrison to a grand jury for an indictment, the St. Louis County district attorney's office dropped all the charges against Morrison over Brandt's objections. Fierceton responded that that showed the university's "vulnerability and desperation". Shes lying, shes a spoiled brat, this, that, and the other which looking back at the time I just felt absolutely horrible. Uh, my lawyer. A cousin who lived with the Morrisons for a while did not see any signs of abuse and believed it was possible Fierceton could have inflicted the injuries herself. I think this is a conversation not necessarily for people who are still in question about what happened here. What about Rhodes? How long were you in the hospital? Now Im sobbing, Im hyperventilating, and the staff member interrupted and said: Can we have an estimate of how much time is left? She bounced from one foster home to the next. We started building this, and this is exactly who we built it for. And please go and leave us a rating or a review it helps people find the show. Deconstructed[emailprotected]theintercept.com, Photo illustration: Soohee Cho for The Intercept; Getty Images, AP, This weeks guest on Deconstructed is Mackenzie Fierceton, who was the subject of, The Philadelphia Inquirer erroneously wrote that she had grown up poor. 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